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Homeschool Diplomas – Fact vs. Fiction

(This article is from the Ontario University Admissions for Homeschoolers, Mature Students, Gifted/Accelerated Entrants and other Non-Traditional Applicants message board.)

Diploma:
1. an official or state document
2. a writing usually under seal conferring some honor or privilege
3. a document bearing record of graduation from or of a degree conferred by an educational institution

It’s not exactly clear-cut, but the implication behind the word diploma is that it has been awarded to the recipient by someone with the explicit power to do so.

WHY I TAKE ISSUE WITH THE PHRASE “HOMESCHOOL DIPLOMA”

Here’s why I don’t like the phrase “homeschool diploma” (and I know many people find my site by searching that phrase, so I’m not just making this up!):

The family unit does have the power to confer some honor or privilege upon a child who has, in the family’s mind, successfully completed high school.

But, the family unit does not have the power to confer upon said child an award that others outside the family are forced to acknowledge.

It is misleading, I believe, to represent yourself as having earned a “high school diploma” because that phrase carries with it the understanding that a government-approved organization assessed and granted diploma status. In other words, if it came off your own printer, how “official” can it really be?

HOW DO HOMESCHOOLERS GET A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA?

When I speak on the topic of university admissions, I’m often asked how homeschoolers “get a high school diploma.” The reality is, many homeschoolers do not get a high school diploma. And in fact, by definition (according to the universities), if you have a high school diploma, you are not a homeschooler!

If you go through the homeschool admission policies of the Ontario universities, you’ll notice that while you may be asked to provide a transcript, or portfolio, you will not be asked to submit a “diploma.” That’s because universities do not recognize diplomas unless they come from a government-accredited source.

And most importantly, a homeschooled applicant is one who by definition does not possess a government diploma. So, the university is not expecting you to present any diploma whatsoever. This is why you’re considered a homeschooler, and this is why you’re presenting a portfolio, or standardized test results or some other requirement that is not required of traditionally-schooled applicants.

BUT MY CHILD IS ENROLLED IN AN OUTSIDE PROGRAM LEADING TO A DIPLOMA. AM I STILL CONSIDERED A HOMESCHOOLER?

Now, I have had this discussion with others re: “diplomas” that come at the end of comprehensive curriculum programs, mostly those available out of the U.S. and completed through distance studies.

One mother was adamant that her child’s university “accepted” this diploma. The reality is, and it’s a fine distinction so bear with me, the university accepted the child, who happened to have this diploma when he applied.

While the university took this diploma into consideration, and subsequently decided to admit the student, this does not mean that this program’s diploma is “recognized” or “accepted.” The university is not allowed to recognize a non-government-accredited diploma as fulfilling the “does this kid have a high school diploma?” requirement. Note that a government approved diploma can be from *any* government, not just a Canadian province. But, it does have to be awarded by ultimately an organization that is under the jurisdiction of a country’s own education system, not a private curriculum company.

That being said, there are some correspondence diplomas from the U.S. that are government accredited. In fact, the very first time I spoke at the KW conference, we discovered that two members of the audience were following a program that led to an official state diploma from the U.S. This meant that, in the eyes of the universities, these students were not homeschoolers because they had a government diploma to present. So, the specific program you’re following makes a huge difference. (More about these U.S. programs later.)

WHAT YOU DON’T KNOW ABOUT DIPLOMAS, AND WHY YOU’RE OFTEN ASKING THE WRONG QUESTIONS AND THEREFORE GETTING THE WRONG ANSWERS

Here are some of the misconceptions I’ve encountered over the years:

FACT: A diploma is ultimately just a piece of paper signifying an academic honor or achievement. The diploma is not the high school education itself. If you homeschool, you may not receive a diploma for your work. To put it bluntly, get over it! What I mean is, separate the diploma from the education in your mind, and focus not on achieving the diploma at all costs, but rather achieving your life goals (e.g. university admission), then decide whether the diploma is absolutely necessary. Recognize that not every life goal requires a high school diploma, and in fact, some goals are more easily attained without said diploma. When you’re on my website, remember that my primary concern isn’t earning you a diploma — it’s getting you into university, and all advice is given within that context.

FACT: A diploma carries with it the underlying assumption that whoever issued the diploma has been approved by the government to hold the power to certify and acknowledge academic achievement, and this is what allows diplomas to carry universal recognition. This is why not everyone can have a diploma for doing just anything, no matter how worthy it is. Again, get over it! You are not entitled to a government’s seal of approval if you did not do what they specifically require for a high school diploma. The good news is, people like me have been working for years so that this lack of a diploma isn’t an obstacle when applying to university.

FICTION: You need a high school diploma before entering post-secondary studies, so even if you’re 23 with a lot of life experience, you should be figuring out how to go back and get those high school credits that you’re missing so that you can apply to university.
FACT: Apply as a mature student, or to an open university. Don’t waste your time with high school credits unless you really feel you are lacking the academic knowledge/confidence and specifically want to study at the high school level.

FACT: When universities use the phrase “high school diploma” they mean only diplomas issued by government accredited organizations. It’s important to realize that, in Ontario as in many other government jurisdictions, there is only one recognized high school diploma – the government one. All accredited schools (public, private, independent, correspondence) issue this same diploma, not an “equivalent” diploma, but the exact, same one. That’s what being accredited means — given the authority to issue the government diploma.

FACT: People will prey on your innocence/ignorance surrounding diplomas. A few years ago, I overheard one vendor at a large homeschooling conference in Ontario describing his program’s “diploma” to a parent. Words and phrases like “equivalent” and “our kids get into university just like everyone else” are misleading when the audience doesn’t realize two key points. First, there is no such official thing as an “equivalent” diploma. That’s not an official term and no one regulates what is “equivalent” to ensure that it really is like the original. In other words, having an equivalent diploma still means that you don’t have the traditional, government high school diploma. Second, while students with these equivalent diplomas may “similarly get into university” they certainly do not “get into university in a similar way” to kids with the government diploma. While there’s nothing necessarily wrong with using an unaccredited program for your high school years, there *is* something very wrong with using verbal sleight of hand to make people think that your diploma “counts” as what we have come to know as a “high school diploma.” And, this is a huge difference. It’s the difference between applying as a homeschooler and applying with the traditional high school diploma (which, if you had, would make you not a homeschooler in the eyes of the universities).

FICTION: All Ontario high schools offer the government diploma, in other words, the one that is recognized.
FACT: In Ontario, all schools that have chosen to “register” with the government will be listed in database which can be searched here. But, not every school listed is permitted to issue high school diplomas. In other words, not every “registered” school (here’s my application fee) is an “accredited” school (permitted to grant the government high school diploma). Look for the indication “Offers credits towards the Ontario Secondary School Diploma” in their listing.

FICTION: Any correspondence diploma from the U.S. is one way to “get around” not having an Ontario high school diploma.
FACT: In the US, there is an extra layer involved in government accreditation. There are about half a dozen “accrediting organizations” that have government approval to accredit individual schools and school boards. So, when using a curriculum from the United States, it’s important to first find out which organization issues the school’s accreditation, and then determine whether this organization is one of the government ones. There are accrediting bodies in the United States who have not received government approval to accredit schools for the government diploma, meaning that the individual school or program can claim “certification” for its diploma, but just not government certification, which is what Ontario universities will demand. Be careful, there are some well-known names out there whose diplomas are not recognized by universities. This doesn’t mean that the universities won’t consider the academic achievement involved in obtaining them, but these diplomas are not stand ins for a government diploma.

FICTION: You need a high school diploma to put on your resume after graduating from college, university or other post-secondary education/training.
FACT: If you are continuing on to post-secondary education/training, that is the education that should be represented on your resume. Not having a high school diploma when you already have a university degree or college diploma should not ordinarily present any problems to you in the job market.

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Comments

I’m 16 and I have a lot of problems with going to regular school.. I have too many health problems and it just makes it so hard to attend!! I’ve dropped out of school because I just can’t do it that way right now… I really do want my education and do care about it… I’m just really scared that there are no other ways to get it.. I really don’t want to end up like some slacker that can’t ever find a good job.. by getting my education I mean.. get an education good enough to get into a college or university to study for a Veterinarian Technician job when I’m older. You don’t have to go to University for it though… I think college is good enough.. I have to double check the Vet Tech. requirements again.

Hi Tiffany,

There are lots of reasons why people may not complete a high school diploma, and the nice thing is, it doesn’t have to hold you back in life if you have the determination to succeed.

You’re right — vet tech. programs are offered in Ontario colleges. If you don’t complete a high school diploma, then you’ll probably need to wait until you are 19 (or 21, depending on the school) to apply as a mature student.

In the mean time though, it would be smart to find ways to keep up with especially your math and science knowledge, since you’ll have an easier time in a vet tech. program if you can demonstrate your abilities in these areas.

If you do want to finish your diploma, just in a way that works better for your health situation, then there are options with online or correspondence courses. Look at the ILC (www.ilc.org) in particular. You can just take one or a few courses (not a full load) to keep yourself “up” with school but go at a pace that your health allows.

If you need any help or guidance in the matter, send me an email!

Hello, I have been thoroughly enjoying your site. The above article about high school diplomas was especially great! What I am wondering though is how relevant is this to BC? Or is it pretty much the same all across the country?
I’ll definitely be back to read some more!

Oops the above comment from me had the wrong email. I accidentally added an extra letter, please email me back from this one. Sorry about that.
Rosina

Hi Rosina,

Thanks for the comment. I’m glad you’ve been enjoying the site.

What I’ve written above pretty much goes across the country with respect to “accreditation.” That is to say, only a gov’t diploma is recognized by Canadian universities as a “high school diploma.” As I said above, this can be issued from a school in Canada accredited by its home province, or a school/program in the U.S. accredited by one of the organizations that is authorized by the gov’t to give this kind of accreditation. (Extra layer of complication, but it ultimately can be traced back to some government approval.)

In terms of BC universities’ entrance policies, I don’t know these off the top of my head. A quick glance online doesn’t give me too much of a heads up. But, be sure to check out this page regarding BC ( http://www.chriscorrigan.com/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.HowToGetIntoUniversityWithoutAHighSchoolDiploma ) which leads me to believe that BC universities would also use the same basic “definition” of a homeschooler that Ontario universities do, even if it’s not explicitly stated anywhere.

Remember that each school is allowed to create their own admission policies. Ontario just happens to be taking measures to explicitly mention homeschoolers as a separate entrance category (just like say mature students or transfer students) and I don’t think BC is doing that yet. So, as you’ll see if you read Chris Corrigan’s page mentioned above, applying as a “homeschooler” to a BC university is still a little like finding open doors rather than using the clear guidelines that many Ontario universities have established.

Hope that helps, and let me know if I can be of further assistance!

Sarah.

My daughter is 16 and has recently had alot of health issues that has kept her from completing this semester of compulsory credits that were university level, she instead dropped those classes in exchange for independent study courses for the remaining semester so she wouldnt lose any credits during her illness. She only had 3 compulsories left to complete, but was struggeling and the school wont allow her to take them as independent studies. I homeschooled her in colorado when she was in grades 2 and 3 under a private program that gave me the ability to choose her curriculum. She was able to re-enter the mainstream when we moved with no lack in keeping up with her work. Now she is wanting to homeschool again, but since we are permanent residents here, and she is hoping to attend university in minnesota,who says they accept homeschoolers, I am unsure what guidelines of homeschooling I need to be following, Ontario’s? or Minnesota’s where the university is. I am assuming Ontario’s since we are permanent residents, however she will apply to the college as a U.S. citizen I believe. It was easier in Colorado to have someone to be registered under as a homeschooler to help me to know how to keep her on track, Im not sure what that is here or where to find it. My other concern is for the high school diploma vrs. a profile and what that will do to her life in the future job wise. My husband is a 26 year police officer who has no diploma, but if he loses his present job he will not be able to apply at another force because the requirements of applicants state he now has to have a highschool diploma, so Im not sure what to do in terms of allowing her to homeschool. She wants to do this because she can take an apprenticeship in what she is interested in now that will be hands on and very informative in a future career and an advantage prior to her entering college. Is there any way to get this apprenticeship recognized as an accredited curriculum/co-op as a homeschooler? Any help or advice would be great. She visited the college yesterday for an open house, as a homeschooler, can she enter college at 17, or does she have have to be 18? Is there a law requirement on how many years one has to homeschool?
Thankyou-
Sherri Kejick

Hi Sherry,

As always, my advice is to cater to the UNIVERSITY you’ll be applying to, no matter where you live. It’s ultimately the university whose entrance requirements you’ll have to satisfy. A university (or college, if that’s what it is – in Ontario, Canada we call them universities) will care less about a Canadian high school diploma than about its own policies.

As for an age requirement, that too is set by the individual college/university. There is typically no age requirement for attending (remember, there are always genius 10 year olds in math faculties!) any post-secondary institution, so 17 vs. 18 shouldn’t make that much of a difference as long as the institution has a policy of accepting homeschoolers. In Ontario, Canada, the policy is typically that at 21 years of age a student can apply as a “mature student” under different guidelines than that of a typical high school applicant. I’m not very familiar with all the different US colleges/universities, nor with the specific laws of Minnesota.

I would suggest you contact the school you wish to apply to and ask:

1. Do you have a homeschool policy? If so, what are the requirements, and are they any different for someone with a high school education in Canada than in the US?
2. Is there any age requirement for admission?
3. If my daughter doesn’t already have what you would consider to be the requirements to apply, is there a “pre-program” or “probationary status” she can apply to?
4. Given my daughter’s educational profile, what is missing that we would need to complete for a successful application?

This should at least get you started. If you have any other questions, concerns or obstacles, let me know and perhaps I can direct you further. But I can’t stress enough to CONTACT THE UNIVERSITY/COLLEGE and work with them. Many institutions in the US care less about the high school credentials than their own admission process and requirements, so ASK THEM what they want to see and plan for that.

Best wishes!
Sarah.

Thankyou Sarah, great information and advice. It helps alot.
Regards-
Sherri kejick

Hi Sherri,

I realized that I missed a key part of your question – applying to a job without the high school diploma.

Typically, employers that want to see a high school diploma are really saying that they only require high school, and not post-secondary school, credentials. It is less likely that they will actually require the high school diploma *if* you have a higher level of certification, such as a college diploma or university degree. If you know that some kind of post-secondary credential is in your daughter’s future, then I wouldn’t worry too much (99% of the time) about the lack of an official high school degree *if* she earns a higher degree/diploma.

As you say re: your husband’s situation, yes, students without a high school diploma are at a disadvantage if they don’t have another piece of paper to offer. But, these obstacles can often be overcome even later in life. Worst case, adults can write a GED exam at any age. These are some of the trade offs involved in choosing to forgo the high school diploma.

You also mention apprenticeship programs. In Ontario, these programs are available as a sort of “alternative” path to the high school diploma. So yes, some of them can be taken towards the diploma. Other programs may require a high school diploma as an admission requirement, but again, talking to the individual school will give you a better idea of what they’re expecting and demanding. I’m not sure whether you’re looking at an apprenticeship program in Ontario (if so, ask whether they are a part of the “Pathways to Learning” program which is supposed to encourage students to get a diploma “by any means necessary”) or in the US (in which case they probably have some kind of guidelines for homeschooled students).

Again, best of luck!
Sarah.

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